I see the lovely Robyn is over at Kiwiblog playing with a John/D4J double act. Of course, D4J is in full faux rage about being mixed up with ‘John’. Curiously, ‘John’ doesn’t appear to mind the conflation. If you were a cynic, you might think ‘John’ was D4J’s alter ego - although more ‘altered id’ than ‘alter ego’. I’ll go on record and say I don’t believe John is D4J. Now whether they’re both Peter Burns, well….
The John/D4J double act
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November 6, 2007 at 9:07 pm
If D4j and john are the same person, then I might have had a bit of a breakthough. John wrote something that was almost nice.
November 6, 2007 at 9:10 pm
Seriously, though. I’m not fucking with them. You guys know me and my wacky philosophical ideas - I’m just thinking that maybe if I keep being honest and straight forward with D4j, he might respond. I was really moved by the conversation between Mardy and nih the other day. Leaving him that way… well, I don’t believe in these kinds of binaries, really. But I think it would be wrong.
November 6, 2007 at 9:19 pm
Someone once said that there is no hope for D4J. Short of a major breakthrough in pharmaceuticals. We live in hope
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November 6, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Robyn, I don’t know whether engaging him will help him and I don’t even know if I believe all that he’s written about his situation.
In the final series of the Sopranos, Melfi is told that “talk therapy” doesn’t work for sociopathic criminals… leading to her canning her arrangement with Tony.
I guess I don’t want to see d4j lash out at someone cause he’s been unduly aggravated but neither do I think he should be allowed to be an offensive bully simply because it suits him…
Best of luck.
November 6, 2007 at 9:41 pm
Thanks.
As I type this, my workmate just said to me; ‘in these cases, I don’t think anyone can be helped unless they’re willing to help themseleves.’ She’s talking about someone else, but it maybe applies across the board.
I’m not saying that this is my new project, but I’m not going to ignore it either, when I go back in a couple of days to ask my right-wing thought questions again.
November 6, 2007 at 9:44 pm
Hey, what happened to my little tags… I had put the Soprano’s little aside in really clever “geek” tags… what gives? I’ll ask Icky, he’s the techy one amongst us.
Anyway, I kinda agree with your friend but wish you the best regardless.
November 6, 2007 at 11:20 pm
Being nice to him is inviting him to use you as therapy and focus his arrogant vitriol on you. I tried it initially too.
If you can’t be bothered arguing with him, just ignore him.
November 6, 2007 at 11:22 pm
Talk therapy helps psychopaths refine their outward image, generally causing them to become more skilled at manipulation. There is flat out no way to help psychopaths short of their own little island somewhere.
D4J calls getting online and abusing people ‘therapy’ because while he absolutely longs for social understanding and equilibrium, he has no innate knowledge of how it works. He probably doesn’t see himself as all that different from everyone else, even though he clearly is.
November 6, 2007 at 11:25 pm
Wasn’t it a cool series though, what a shame it ended!
November 6, 2007 at 11:30 pm
I never watched it
I caught bits of it and really, really meant to. I’ll rent the DVDs one day.
November 6, 2007 at 11:36 pm
Rent them series by series and dedicate a day or two to watch an entire series - its worth it.
November 6, 2007 at 11:41 pm
My ass will become one with the couch, master.
November 7, 2007 at 12:11 am
as opposed to your computer desk-chair? :>
November 7, 2007 at 12:28 am
Ok. My already-unified asschair will aggregate with the couch. It’ll be like some sort of furniture gravemind.
November 7, 2007 at 12:31 am
Great funny to end the night with!
November 7, 2007 at 12:45 am
Gotta be dad.
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/11/hone_harawira_on_the_law.html#comment-363028
November 7, 2007 at 1:36 am
Yeah that looks like him, the punctuation is a dead giveaway even though he manged to not put spaces between everything this time. I find it strange that a man who claims to care for children has no problems in abusing them (hitting your kid is abuse no matter how you dress it up). People bag social services and the family courts but it doesn’t take an Einstein to see they have made the right decision regarding Dads4Derangement.
November 7, 2007 at 5:55 pm
Just a thought, redbaiter = Mr P of solopassion?.
November 7, 2007 at 7:36 pm
Completely agree, tiger, and nih too. But there’s this one problem. This guy is clearly unhinged - seriously unwell. Reading him in there in kiwiblog is like watching someone walking around in a crowd of people with a severed limb. And he’s just bleeding and bleeding all over the place. And it’s horrible. And people just keep prodding him and rarking him up.
Shit, it’s useless. I just have a total jesus complex. I need to get over myself. here’s this though:
‘No human being, if you understand his desires, is worthless. No-one’s life is nothing. Even the most evil of men or women, if you understand their hearts, had some generous act, which redeems them, at least a little, for their sins.’
It’s from Orson Scott Card - nice, eh? (Pity Orson is a raging homophobe. Go Tolerence Orson! Go!)
November 8, 2007 at 1:08 am
At the end of Memento, Leonard deliberately perpetrates his own delusion so that he might continue to have a purpose in life. This is D4J. He creates his own misery to continue to generate attention. Even his own kids are a lever to that end. In your metaphor, his wounds would be self-inflicted.
D4J does have a purpose: he is a lesson. He’s a walking disaster and fun to talk about. That’s about it unfortunately. Plus he keeps someone in the government employed.
I talk about empathy a lot and I think everyone deserves safety and comfort, both physically and psychologically. I don’t have time for psychopaths though. If they can’t conform to a clear set of ethics then they’re better off euthanised.
November 8, 2007 at 1:39 am
Fantastic movie Momento; fantastic direction, acting, script, concept and execution.
[Zos: Memento - just in case someone decides to rent it]